RESOURCES
Helpful organizations, books, newsletters, reports, articles, videos, etc.
Organizations
Clinical Advisory Network on Sex and Gender (CAN-SG). A group of U.K. and Ireland-based clinicians calling for greater understanding of the effects of sex and gender in healthcare. FAQ article: "Are People Born With A Gender Identity?"
Society For Evidence Based Gender Medicine (SEGM). International group of clinicians and researchers whose mission is to promote evidence-based approaches to treatment of gender dysphoria in children, adolescents, and young adults.
Transgender Trend. An organization of parents, professionals and academics based in the U.K. who are concerned about the current trend to diagnose children as transgender.
The Paradox Institute. A small team of scientists, designers, and writers who educate about the biological and psychological differences between males and females and why they are important using animated videos, articles, and podcasts.
FAIR in Medicine. A nonpartisan professional network dedicated to advancing the highest ethical standards in medical practice, and to promoting a common medical culture based on critical thinking and the pursuit of excellence in all medical endeavors.
Books
Time to Think: The Inside Story of The World’s Largest Gender Service For Children, Hannah Barnes, February 2023
T: The Story of Testerone: The Hormone That Dominates and Divides Us, Carole Hooven, July 2021
Sex Science Self: A Social History of Estrogen, Testosterone, and Identity, Bob Ostertag, February 2017
Newsletters
Buttonslives, Christina Buttons
Reality’s Last Stand, Colin Wright
Articles
“Gender-Affirming Care Is Dangerous. I Know Because I Helped Pioneer It,” Dr. Riittakerttu Kaltiala, The Free Press, October 30, 2023
“I Thought I Was Saving Trans Kids. Now I Am Blowing The Whistle,” Jamie Reed, The Free Press, February 9, 2023
“Debunked: The Transgender 'Brain Sex' Argument,” Christina Buttons, Buttonlives, April 6, 2023
“Democrats Deny Basic Biology In Push To Change Gender Of Children,” Michael Shellenberger, Public, June 16, 2024
“Why Depressed Children Shouldn't Be Given Puberty Blockers,” D. Delaney, Inspecting Gender, June 11, 2024
“Gender dysphoria in young people is rising—and so is professional disagreement,” Jennifer Block, British Medical Journal, February 23, 2023
Reports
The WPATH Files: Pseudoscientific Surgical and Hormonal Experiments on Children, Adolescents, and Vulnerable Adults. Published on March 4, 2024, a comprehensive and shocking report on leaked message board exchanges and video footage from within the World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH), revealing widespread medical malpractice on children and young adults. Members are seen to demonstrate a lack of consideration for long-term patient outcomes despite being aware of the debilitating and potentially fatal side effects of cross-sex hormones and other treatments.
The Cass Review, Final Report. Published on April 10, 2024, this systematic report commissioned by England’s National Health Service describes the fate of young people seeking support for gender distress from 2015 to 2020. It sets out a recommended clinical approach to the care they should expect, the interventions that should be available, and how services should be organized. It also comments on quality improvement and research infrastructure required to ensure evidence-based care. Dr. Hilary Cass is a leading U.K. pediatrician and the report has been widely praised for its impartiality and thoroughness. Related news coverage:
“Hilary Cass Says U.S. Doctors Are ‘Out of Date’ on Youth Gender Medicine,” New York Times, May 13, 2024
“The Evidence Was Disappointingly Poor,” WBUR, full video interview with Dr. Hilary Cass, May 8, 2024
Treatment for Pediatric Gender Dysphoria: Review of Evidence and Best Practices. Final version published on November 19, 2025 (after an initial release in May 2025) by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, this peer-reviewed “umbrella review” summarizes findings from 17 previously-conducted systematic reviews. As with all the prior systematic reviews, this HHS review found no good evidence that GAC benefits youth. Too many Democrats—and most U.S. medical groups, as detailed below—will ignore this science because it came from the Trump Administration. Unique to this review is Part 4, a chapter on Ethics. Read coverage of the initial release from The Economist.
Various research by Dr. Lisa Littman, originator of the ROGD hypothesis.
Film and Video
No Way Back: The Reality of Gender-Affirming Care. Six young people discuss the “gender affirming” medical care they received for gender dysphoria and how they subsequently realized this was the wrong treatment. Includes analysis by twelve leading experts with clinical practice in treating gender-distressed patients. (April 2023, 95 minutes)
Trans Mission: What’s the Rush to Reassign Gender? A documentary film featuring experts, activists, parents and educators discussing the medical and surgical “transitioning” of children. (June 2021, 52 minutes)
Organizations
Detrans Help. Resources for detransitioners provided by detransitioners.
Beyond Trans. Subsidized one-to-one therapy for detransitioners and desisters, plus free group support groups and more; a project of Genspect.
Transition Justice. Connects detransitioners and others negatively affected by gender medicine with legal assistance.
Themis Resource Fund. An independent, nonprofit, nonpartisan organization that connects detransitioned plaintiffs in the United States with attorneys who want to take their cases, and helps them fund litigation to seek compensation for injuries from affirmative gender treatment.
Resilience Health Network. A non-profit established to help detransitioners find internists, surgeons, endocrinologists, and psychologists who have the knowledge to help them reverse unwanted changes.
Books
Detrans: When Transition Is Not The Solution, Dr Az Hakeem, October 2023
Newsletters
Some Nuance Please by Michelle Alleva. A detransitioned woman reflecting on sex-trait modification, its implications for society, and her own lived experiences.
Prisha’s Substack by Prisha Mosely. A detransitioned woman who writes and advocates to protect other young people from falling victim to gender ideology.
Prude Posting by Helena. (Discontinued) A detransitioned woman writes about the youth gender identity phenomenon, social justice ideology, and emotional and physical well-being.
Hormone Hangover by Grace. Blog about detransition, gender care in America, and the broader gender wars.
Ritchie Herron. A detransitioned man who writes and speaks about his experiences with U.K. gender medicine, his regret, and the status of his recovery from opposite-sex hormones and genital surgeries.
Through the Trees by Forrest. A detransitioned man writes about his journey documenting his recovery, relapses, and personal history.
Carol’s Substack. Adult transitioner and detransitioner self-described as a “gender apostate and all around problematic lesbian.”
Film and Video
The Detransition Diaries: Saving Our Sisters. A documentary that recounts the stories of three young women who felt that their trauma and dysphoria would be fixed by trying to medically “transition” from female to male. (April 2023, 42 minutes)
The Lost Boys: Searching for Manhood. Five young men describe their experiences with gender dysphoria as they wrestled with feelings of inadequacy as men, and their ultimate pursuit to find peace in their natural bodies. (January 2024, 48 minutes)
Identity Crisis Series, Detransitioner Stories: Daisy Strongin | Cat Cattinson | Prisha Mosley | Chloe Cole | Soren Aldaco | Isabelle Ayala | Cristina Hineman | Claire | Simon Amaya Price
Other
R/Detrans. A members-only Subreddit for detransitioners, desisters, and self-questioners with some medical or legal professionals allowed and over 50,000 members. Harrowing, inspiring, educational, heartfelt posts on anything about gender detransition. Images, questions, memes, venting.
Detransition Stories & Statistics. Browse and visualise 2709 unique detransition stories and timelines of people who have shared their experiences in the /r/detrans subreddit, which is the largest open collection of detransition stories and experiences on the internet.
Genspect’s Detrans Awareness Days. Webinars in which detransitioners speak about what led to their transitions, what they’ve learned about the gender healthcare industry, and about what they believe doctors, therapists, and everyone else needs to know.
Transgender Trend - Detransition. Books, studies, articles, useful links, blogs, and support groups.
Organizations
Parents with Inconvenient Truths about Trans. PITT is a group of parents with first-hand experience in the upside-down world of gender ideology who publish the largest and most well-known newsletter of personal stories.
Parents of ROGD Kids. Parents with children afflicted by Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria.
ROGD Boys. A coalition of parents, health experts, professional educators, and others concerned with the medicalization of young men and boys suffering from gender identity confusion, providing information and resources.
Partners for Ethical Care. PEC raises awareness and supports efforts to stop the unethical treatment of children by schools, hospitals, and mental and medical healthcare providers under the duplicitous banner of gender identity affirmation.
Transgender Trend. Parents, professionals, and academics based in the U.K. concerned about the current trend to diagnose children as transgender.
Gender Dysphoria Support Network. International group that aims to offer support to families of individuals affected by gender dysphoria. Hosts online support groups to relatives and friends so that they can share their experiences in order to resolve common challenges.
Our Duty. An international support network for parents who wish to protect their children from gender ideology.
4th Wave Now. A community of people who question the medicalization of gender non-conforming youth.
Gender Critical Resources Support Board. An online forum for concerned parents of kids who have adopted a trans identity.
Beyond Trans. Offers funding for therapy and provides free therapeutic programs to people who feel distressed or ambivalent about their transition.
Open Therapy Institute. OTI mental health care clinicians develop innovative, evidence-based tools to help people, support professionals, and address social issues.
Critical Therapy Antidote. CTA was set up in 2020 to provide a platform for people (practitioners, academics, clients, supervisors, and members of allied professions) who were concerned about the rapid and uncontested encroachment of Critical Social Justice into talking therapies.
Affirming Reality. Offering coaching for parents coping with gender confused youth.
Therapy First (formerly GETA). A non-profit professional association of over 300 mental health providers worldwide who view psychotherapy as the appropriate first-line treatment for gender dysphoria. A note of caution: parents, choose carefully, several of these practitioners are living/presenting as the opposite sex.
A Therapist's Reflections on Gender in a Polarized World. Articles by Sasha Ayad (formerly of the Gender: A Wider Lens podcast), whose work focuses on teens and young adults struggling with issues of gender dysphoria and gender identity.
Books
Desist, Detrans & Detox: Getting Your Child Out of the Gender Cult, Maria Keffler, April 2021
Inventing Transgender Children and Young People, Michelle Moore, Heather Brunskell-Evans, July 2020
Irreversible Damage: The Transgender Craze Seducing Our Daughters, Abigail Shrier, June 2021
Bad Therapy, Abigail Shrier, February 2024
Lost in Trans Nation: A Child Psychiatrist’s Guide Out of the Madness, Dr. Miriam Grossman, July 2023
Parents with Inconvenient truths about Trans: Tales from the Home Front in the Fight to Save Our Children, personal stories written and edited exclusively by parents, August 2023
Parents with Inconvenient Truths about Trans: More Tales from the Homefront in the Fight to Save Our Kids, more personal stories written and edited exclusively by parents, April 2025
So, You Think You May Be Trans: A critical guide to the debate around trans identities for parents, teachers and others involved with caring for children and young people, Tim Davies, February 2023
The Trans Train: A Parent's Perspective on Transgender Medicalization and Ideology, Lisa Shultz, February 2024
When Kids Say They’re Trans: A Guide for Thoughtful Parents, Sasha Ayad, Lisa Marchiano, Stella O’Malley, September 2023
Sacrificial Lambs: A Liberal Reporter Exposes How the Progressive Left Harms Children in the Name of Gender Ideology, Anita Bartholomew, November 2025
The Coddling of the American Mind, Greg Lukianoff, Jonathan Haidt, September 2018
Articles
“Therapists Have Betrayed The Parents Of Gender-Confused Kids, And There’ll Be Hell To Pay,” Miriam Grossman, MD, The Federalist, November 11, 2021
“Adolescent Onset gender Dysphoria, Our Perspective,” Kristopher Kaliebe, MD, David Atkinson, MD, excerpt from American Academy of Child & Adolescent Psychiatry Newsletter, November-December 2023
Organizations
Gender Health Query. A nonpartisan LGB human rights organization, providing an informational resource to address risks and conflicts arising from gender ideology activism in schools under the banner of “transgender,” “SOGI” (sexual orientation and gender identity), and “LGBTQ+.” Its purpose is to help concerned parents and educators articulate these issues.
Parents Defending Education. A national grassroots parent organization working to reclaim schools from harmful agendas via networking, coalition building, investigative reporting, litigation, and engagement on local, state, and national policies, combating indoctrination in the classroom and promoting the restoration of a healthy, non-political education for children. Their List of School District Transgender/Gender Nonconforming Student Policies includes school districts by state that have policies that state that district personnel can or should keep a student’s transgender status hidden from parents.
Resist Gender Education. A resource for those concerned about the promotion of gender ideology in New Zealand schools.
Restore Childhood. National nonprofit founded to protect children from governmental overreach in health and education. They believe that parents are the best advocates for their own children, and seek to empower parents with educational tools and research on critical gender-related issues. Their comprehensive Gender Toolkit gives parents the information to feel confident in making evidence-based decisions in parenting and public policy.
Books for Children
My Body is ME!, Rachel Rooney, illustrated by Jessica Ahlberg, 2015. A picture book for young children introducing the workings of the human body, and celebrating similarities and differences while challenging sex stereotypes. The book aims to promote a positive self-image and foster self-care skills. The text is inclusive for children with physical or sensory disabilities.
Sex and Gender: An Introductory Guide, Phoebe Rose, January 2021. An illustrated guide for pre-teens and teens addressing confusing messages about sex and gender.
Froggy Girl, Pamela Garfield-Jaeger, illustrated by Nicolas Blooms, July 2025. An illustrated book that teaches children that they are born right by a licensed clinical social worker with 25 years of experience with children and families.
Articles
“When Students Change Gender Identity, and Parents Don’t Know,” Katie J. M. Baker, New York Times, January 22, 2023
“Gender Identity Indoctrination in U.S. Schools,” Carol Dansereau, Carol Dansereau's Substack, September 14, 2022
Film and Video
Gender Ideology in Our Schools (Part I). A look at what is being taught in schools about gender identity, using actual materials from Seattle public schools from Kindergarten through 12th grade from a left perspective. The same or similar materials are being used in schools throughout the U.S. (March 31, 2021, 60 minutes)
Gender Ideology in Our Schools (Part II). A deeper dive into how schools mislead children and why it matters. (August 11, 2021, 60 minutes)
Other
Genspect Guidance for Schools. A common sense downloadable guide about handling gender in schools, created by Genspect to provide a reference for parents, teachers, school districts.
Safe Schools: Universal Guidance. A project of Our Duty, lays out policies that should be in place to protect students from harm. Parents can register to receive news and updates.
Letter to the School Board. Comprehensive template letter from PITT for parents to submit to school boards.
Organizations
Fair Play for Women. Campaign and consulting group raising awareness, providing evidence and analysis, and working to protect the rights of women and girls in the U.K. (Don’t miss their seminal article, "Pronouns are Rohypnol," June 2019.)
Champion Women. Provides legal advocacy for girls and women in sports.
Independent Council on Women’s Sports. ICONS is a network of advocacy groups composed of current and former collegiate and professional women athletes, their families, and supporters.
Let Women Speak. Memberships, forums, events, actions, locals, and also the Let Women Speak U.K. store.
Women's Sports Policy Working Group. Affirms and strengthens the legal rights of females to separate, single-sex sports competitions. Encourages accommodations for males who identify as transgender if they do not diminish females opportunities, scholarships, prize money, or rights to fair, safe, and separate sports experiences.
Women’s Liberation Front. Founded in 2013, WoLF works to restore, protect, and advance the rights of women and girls using legal argument, policy advocacy, and public education.
Books
Unfair Play: The Battle for Women’s Sport, Sharron Davies, Craig Lord, June 2023
Unsporting: How Trans Activism and Science Denial are Destroying Sport, Linda Blade, Barbara Kay, May 2021
Film and Video
Biological Perspectives on Transgender Athletes in Sport 2022. Dr. Ross Tucker, PhD, explores questions of trans athletes in sports and tries to balance inclusion with fairness and safety. (June 7, 2022, 42 minutes)
Exploring Youth Athletic Performance. Dr. Greg Brown explores the complexities of pre-puberty athletic performance. Filmed at the 2023 International Women’s Sports Summit. (February 29, 2024, 28 minutes)
Train Harder. A rap song by Francis Aaron about men competing in women’s sports. (July 3, 2023, 7 minutes)
Adult Human Female. U.K. documentary looking at the clash between women’s rights and trans ideology. (December 11, 2022, 92 minutes)
JUST IN: Riley Gaines Tears Up In Senate Testimony Describing Sharing Locker Room With Lia Thomas. Riley Gaines testifies to the Senate Judiciary Committee on her experience with Will “Lia” Thomas. (June 21, 2023, 5 minutes)
Reporting
She Won. A website is dedicated to archiving the achievements of female athletes who were displaced by males in women’s sporting events and other types of competitions expressly for women.
Stronger Women. A Substack by Mariah Burton Nelson in which she offers weekly stories and insights on female-only sports, older female athletes, and the empowerment of women through sports. Burton Nelson is a member of the Women’s Sports Policy Working Group.
Reduxx. Feminist news and opinion with a focus on men encroaching on women’s spaces in all areas of life.
Boys vs Women. Male high school athletes vs female Olympians; statistics for track and field for 2016.
He Cheated. A record of males who have robbed female athletes of success and opportunities in sport and the organizations who have helped them do so.
The Witch Trials of J.K. Rowling. J.K. Rowling speaks to host Megan Phelps-Roper with unprecedented candor and depth about the controversies surrounding her—from early book ban efforts by evangelical Christians to debates on gender and sex. (Also see “J.K. Rowling Writes about Her Reasons for Speaking out on Sex and Gender Issues,” June 2020.)
What About Women. Milli Hill documents the erasure of women in language and policy, stemming from her ejection as a leader of the La Leche League, a venerable woman-to-woman peer support breastfeeding organization, for objecting to a new policy allowing biological males to attend support groups.
TERF IS A SLUR. A website “documenting the abuse, harassment and misogyny of transgender identity politics.”
Organizations
Keep Prisons Single Sex. Established in 2020 in the U.K. and expanded to the U.S. ( to address concerns about the escalating numbers of male prisoners being moved into women’s prisons), KPSS campaigns for the rights of women in prison to single-sex accommodation and same-sex searching and for data on offending to be recorded by sex throughout the criminal justice system.
Woman II Woman. A community of previously incarcerated women providing resources, education, and support services for system-impacted women. “We stand in solidarity with our sisters, being a voice for the voiceless and ensuring them that they are not forgotten.”
Articles
“Almost 50% of Trans Inmates in Federal Custody for Sex Offences,” Anna Slatz, 4w, January 3, 2022
“Female prisoners are being endangered by trans rights,” Raquel Rosario Sánchez, The Spectator, April 16, 2022
“Why Men are Housed In Women’s Prisons,” Glenna Goldis, Bad Facts, March 18, 2024
Film and Video
Cruel and Unusual Punishment: The Male Takeover of Female Prisons. A six-part documentary. (February-May 2024, 40 minutes)
Other
Women’s Declaration International USA Prison FOIA Project 2023. In 2021, WDI USA volunteers sent requests under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) to every women’s state prison in the US to determine the exact number of male inmates being housed in each of them. The results have been used by journalists to report on this blatant violation of basic human rights. Another request was submitted for 2023.
Books
Trans: When Ideology Meets Reality, Helen Joyce, July 2021
Female Erasure: What You Need to Know about Gender Politics' War on Women, the Female Sex and Human Rights, Ruth Barret (editor), October 2016
On the Meaning of Sex: Thoughts About the New Definition of Woman, Kajsa Ekis Ekman, February 2023
Gender Hurts, Sheila Jeffreys, April 2014
Born in the Right Body: Gender identity ideology from a medical and feminist perspective, Isidora Sanger (editor), November 2022
The Annals of the TERF-Wars and Other Writing, Jane Clare Jones, June 2022
Material Girls: Why Reality Matters for Feminism, Kathleen Stock, May 2021
Gender Critical Feminism, Holly Lawford Smith, May 2022
Transgender Body Politics, Heather Brunskell-Evans, October 2020
Trouble With Gender, Alex Byrne, October 2023
The End of Gender: Debunking The Myths About Sex And Identity In Our Society, Debra Soh, August 2020
CIS, WHITE, GAY: The Making of a Gender Heretic, Ben Appel, November 2025
The Transsexual Empire, Janice Raymond, 1979 (free downloadable PDF of the 1994 edition)
Film and Video
Critically Examining The Doctrine Of Gender Identity. A presentation by Rebecca Reilly-Cooper for Coventry (U.K.) Skeptics. (March 16, 2016, 67 minutes)
Dysphoric: Fleeing Womanhood Like a House on Fire. A four-part documentary series on the rise of Gender Identity Ideology and its effects on women and girls, especially in developing countries. (January 2021, 152 minutes)
Organizations
Democratic Women's Declaration. The Democratic Women's Declaration stands firm on protecting sex-based rights. Key areas include maternal services, single-sex spaces, and freedom of expression.
Independent Women’s Law Center. The IWLC believes that sex matters, that women and men are not (and never will be) interchangeable or the same, and that our laws and our public policies shouldn’t gloss over important physical differences between women and men.
Gender Critical Law Society. GCLS members are U.S. lawyers opposed to "gender identity" in law.
LGB Alliance USA. Leading the fight for same-sex rights. “We are part of an international movement confronting a new wave of homophobia that—just like the old one—tries to tell us our same-sex attraction is wrong.”
LGB Courage Coalition. The LGB Courage Coalition believes the current practice of “gender-affirming care” for minors is not evidence-based and carries the risk of irreversible harm. They seek to give voice to those who share our concerns but who are afraid to speak out.
Sex Matters. This U.K.-based charity’s mission is to promote clarity about sex in law, policy and language in order to protect everybody’s rights.
Women’s Declaration International USA. WDI USA exists to promote the Declaration, which re-affirms women's and girls' sex-based rights, as set out in the Convention on the Elimination of all Forms of Discrimination against Women adopted by the United Nations General Assembly, and challenges the discrimination we experience from the replacement of the category of sex with that of “gender identity.”
Women’s Liberation Front. Founded in 2013, WoLF works to restore, protect, and advance the rights of women and girls using legal argument, policy advocacy, and public education.
Books
The Reckoning: How the Democrats and the Left Betrayed Women and Girls, Kara Dansky, December 2023
The Abolition of Sex: How the “Transgender” Agenda Harms Women and Girls, Kara Dansky, November 2021
Sex And Gender: A Contemporary Reader, Alice Sullivan, Selina Todd (editors), August 2023
Women's Rights, Gender Wrongs: the global impact of gender-identity ideology, Kath Aiken, Sally Wainwright (editors), October 2023
Newsletters
The TERF Report, Kara Dansky
The Same Drugs, Meghan Murphy
Other
Gender Healthcare Policy MAP. A project of FAIR in Medicine, a resource of aggregated information affecting gender modification interventions for minors in the United States.
Women’s Bill of Rights.The Women’s Bill of Rights recognizes that males and females possess unique and immutable biological differences that manifest prior to birth and increase as they age and experience puberty and clarifies the meaning of current sex-based laws and codifies current court precedent regarding single sex spaces. Sign here!
Declaration on Women’s Sex-Based Rights. The Declaration re-affirms women’s sex-based rights as outlined in the Convention on the Elimination of all Forms of Discrimination against Women (CEDAW), which was adopted by the United Nations General Assembly on December 18th, 1979. Sign here!
Organizations
Genspect. Seeks a healthy approach to sex and gender and provides many resources on their Healthcare page including Stats for Gender, an extensive list of guidance on various aspects of gender, as well as sponsoring the influential Gender: A Wider Lens podcast (discontinued but past podcasts still available), publishing the Inspecting Gender newsletter, and hosting conversations on the Genspect YouTube channel.
Clinical Advisory Network on Sex and Gender (CAN-SG). A group of U.K. and Ireland-based clinicians calling for greater understanding of the effects of sex and gender in healthcare. FAQ article: "Are People Born With A Gender Identity?”
Books
Gender Dysphoria: a Therapeutic Model for Working with Children, Adolescents, & Young Adults, Susan Evans, Marcus Evans, May 2021
Trans: Exploring Gender Identity and Gender Dysphoria, Dr. Az Hakeem, April 2023
Transgender Identities, Alessandra Lemma, December 2021
Individuals
Julie Bindel, writing and podcasts
Christina Buttons, Buttonslives
Kara Dansky, The TERF Report
Glenna Goldis, Bad Facts
Milli Hill, What About Women
Eva Kurilova, Eva’s Newsletter
Bernard Lane, Gender Clinic News
Graham Linehan, The Glinner Update
Sarah Mittermaier, Gender:Hacked
Meghan Murphy, The Same Drugs
Stephen Nolan, Nolan Investigates
Gerald Posner, Just the Facts Media
Jenny Poyer Ackerman, TransMuted
Benjamin Ryan, Hazard Ratio
Lisa Selin-Davis, BROADview
Jesse Singal, Singal Minded Kathleen Stock
Colin Wright, Reality’s Last Stand
Organizations/Collaborations
LGB Courage Coalition | Informed Dissent
The Lesbian Project (Julie Bindel and Kathleen Stock)



